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		DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: A Gay example of how to undetect CheatEngine for newbies | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  The bright brown fox has jumped over the fence
 
 
fox is detected, change fox to w.e | 	  
 
 
Well this one is better, this is a very basic example of how to undetect CheatEngine from GG
 
 
Download CE 5.3 (Original) source, compile everything and open it, then open the game i included...
 
 
figure out what's detected (1 string only), if you bypassed this gay game GG, then i'm suprised !  
 
 
Note: for those who doesn't know what this game is, click WTF ?
	
  
	 
	
	 
	 
	
	
		
	 
	
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		ZenX Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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		Never Again I post too much
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:25 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				I win.
	
  
	 
	
	
		
	 
	
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		DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:27 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | Never Again wrote: | 	 		  | I win. | 	  
 
 
Dam autoclickers  
 
 
Show me a Pic with CE 5.3 Bypassed  
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		ZenX Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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		Reak I post too much
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:34 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				oh lol, you added so much shit...I don't really know what your "GameGuard" is doing but it's not detecting CE 5.3.
 
And you used strings.
 
 
adress1:00CD4188
 
adress2:00CD41A4
 
adress3:00CD41B4
 
 
weird as hell
 
 
And btw, we can't start the program if we rename/remove the "GameMon.exe" but we can easily kill it.
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		ZenX Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		  
 
And btw, we can't start the program if we rename/remove the "GameMon.exe" but we can easily kill it. | 	  
 
 
Omg, I thoguht that was how every game was??
 
Like No way orly  O_O?
 
 
-.-', that is common sense, sorry.
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		Reak I post too much
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				 	  | ZenX wrote: | 	 		   	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		  
 
And btw, we can't start the program if we rename/remove the "GameMon.exe" but we can easily kill it. | 	  
 
 
Omg, I thoguht that was how every game was??
 
Like No way orly  O_O?
 
 
-.-', that is common sense, sorry. | 	  
 
 
I could just add a timer which checks if GameMon.exe is running or no, if not..baybay
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		ZenX Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:09 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		   	  | ZenX wrote: | 	 		   	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		  
 
And btw, we can't start the program if we rename/remove the "GameMon.exe" but we can easily kill it. | 	  
 
 
Omg, I thoguht that was how every game was??
 
Like No way orly  O_O?
 
 
-.-', that is common sense, sorry. | 	  
 
 
I could just add a timer which checks if GameMon.exe is running or no, if not..baybay | 	  
 
 
Yea, but, i could make an executable that doesnt do shit that is named Gamemon.exe or w/e the GameGuards name and process is.
 
 
 rProtect == FAIL!
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		Reak I post too much
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				 	  | ZenX wrote: | 	 		   	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		   	  | ZenX wrote: | 	 		   	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		  
 
And btw, we can't start the program if we rename/remove the "GameMon.exe" but we can easily kill it. | 	  
 
 
Omg, I thoguht that was how every game was??
 
Like No way orly  O_O?
 
 
-.-', that is common sense, sorry. | 	  
 
 
I could just add a timer which checks if GameMon.exe is running or no, if not..baybay | 	  
 
 
Yea, but, i could make an executable that doesnt do shit that is named Gamemon.exe or w/e the GameGuards name and process is.
 
 
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true.
 
And it's already rev 1337 and does nothing..nice kasper  .
 
Are you planning a update?
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		DeletedUser14087 I post too much
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:46 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				 	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		   	  | ZenX wrote: | 	 		   	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		   	  | ZenX wrote: | 	 		   	  | rEakW0n wrote: | 	 		  
 
And btw, we can't start the program if we rename/remove the "GameMon.exe" but we can easily kill it. | 	  
 
 
Omg, I thoguht that was how every game was??
 
Like No way orly  O_O?
 
 
-.-', that is common sense, sorry. | 	  
 
 
I could just add a timer which checks if GameMon.exe is running or no, if not..baybay | 	  
 
 
Yea, but, i could make an executable that doesnt do shit that is named Gamemon.exe or w/e the GameGuards name and process is.
 
 
 rProtect == FAIL! | 	  
 
 
true.
 
And it's already rev 1337 and does nothing..nice kasper  .
 
Are you planning a update? | 	  
 
 
lol i deleted the src right after i finished this example, no need to update
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		Acim Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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		atom0s Moderator
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		rapion124 Grandmaster Cheater Supreme
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				| Lolz @ Kaspersky's retarded GameGuard. I wouldn't be surprised if all it did was put itself onto the taskbar... Nice for noobies though.
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		SunBeam I post too much
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				 Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject:  | 
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				a) Unpack both, see what he's detecting.
 
 
b) PUSH 4 on CreateProcessA (from Hackthisgame.exe) will send GameMon.exe in suspended mode
 
 
Fun, but not a proof of concept after all. We should have Moose make one such GameGuard. Kasper always posts retarded crap.
 
 
How come I open regular CE 5.3 and I don't get detected? I'm not running in kernel mode. My CE is named "Cheat Engine.exe". Just one space fucks your whole GameGuard, you funny little man..
 
 
Here:
 
 
0045233A  |.  BA C8234500      MOV EDX,Hackthis.004523C8                ;  ASCII "60004000"
 
0045233F  |.  E8 141FFBFF      CALL Hackthis.00404258
 
00452344  |.  75 1B            JNZ SHORT Hackthis.00452361
 
00452346  |.  6A 00            PUSH 0
 
00452348  |.  68 D4234500      PUSH Hackthis.004523D4                   ;  ASCII "Winner !"
 
0045234D  |.  68 E0234500      PUSH Hackthis.004523E0                   ;  ASCII "You Won !"
 
00452352  |.  8BC3             MOV EAX,EBX
 
00452354  |.  E8 A759FEFF      CALL Hackthis.00437D00
 
00452359  |.  50               PUSH EAX                                 ; |hOwner
 
0045235A  |.  E8 8942FBFF      CALL <JMP.&user32.MessageBoxA>           ; \MessageBoxA
 
 
Want to catch the buffer? Simple. Hook 43296A  
 
 
0043296A  |> \8B7E 64          MOV EDI,DWORD PTR DS:[ESI+64]            ;  Case E of switch 00432935
 
 
You can swap the info in that buffer  
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