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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Quick Clarification Reply with quote

NOTE: BEFORE I SAY ANYTHING, I IN NO TERMS, WILL BREAK THE RULES OF THE FORUM.(Or the law for that matter as i have been told.)

I recently learned how to make a virus. Im not saying that im going to user it, destribute it, or do any malicious things with it. Im just curious on one thing. It is created in notepad as a .bat file. My question is that,(yes its a virus which doesn't make a difference as to what type of file it is) why .bat files are illegall to distribute over the interent? I read any type of .bat file is illegal to post over the internet wether it was a virus or not.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.bat files don't have anything to do with programming in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some kid told me how to make a virus from school, i tried, never used, released, destributed, gave, or anything. Im just curious, (because i read on the net) that .bat files are illegal to distribute, and why they are.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.bat 2 .exe
This way it is hidden

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

.bat isn't illegal to distribute

its just a set of instructions to the cmd prompt

and a good "virus" wont be made in a .bat, as you can change the file with 2 clicks.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blankrider wrote:
.bat isn't illegal to distribute

its just a set of instructions to the cmd prompt

and a good "virus" wont be made in a .bat, as you can change the file with 2 clicks.


if you know what technique im talking about, the virus im talking about is written in command prompt and consists or 2, 2 word lines. The effect causes a reaction that opens over 1000 browsers per sec. causing your computer to crash =o.
Edit: the reason im only saying 2lines of words is because i don't want to release how to do it, because indeed it is bad.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MegaForum wrote:
blankrider wrote:
.bat isn't illegal to distribute

its just a set of instructions to the cmd prompt

and a good "virus" wont be made in a .bat, as you can change the file with 2 clicks.


if you know what technique im talking about, the virus im talking about is written in command prompt and consists or 2, 2 word lines. The effect causes a reaction that opens over 1000 browsers per sec. causing your computer to crash =o.


Thats simple just its not banned and they can edit the .bat before running it
You can see exactly what it does right away

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Viruses infect and destroy files, .bat files cannot do anything nearly as malicious as that. All you have made is noobware.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so your saying there is something worse than crashing your computer?
i mean stuff like stealing personal info. is bad, i think its pretty bad =/
i didn't make it either, some kid told me about it.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Uligor wrote:
.bat files don't have anything to do with programming in my opinion.

agreed.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, what a SMART person would be is

rename it to something like "Internet Explorer", change the icon to the ie icon, and hope like crazy that the computer hides known file types. =/
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats worse than crashing a comp?

deleting the partition

create a virus that can inject its memory into other processes inturn, ruining all of your computer programs and then spreading itself through msn/aim via keylogging

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blankrider wrote:
whats worse than crashing a comp?

deleting the partition

create a virus that can inject its memory into other processes inturn, ruining all of your computer programs and then spreading itself through msn/aim via keylogging


I must say, that that would be pretty impressive, but how might one use a keylogger to send itself to someone else?

Unless my knowledge fails me (which it does only a few times), a keylogger is something that reads the keys of a program and then sends it back to its author.

Are you thinking of detecting when they have AIM/MSN up, then hooking itself to a message and traveling to another computer?

That, my friend, would be mighty impressive work.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, I would like to know how to do this. But I doubt that there are that many tutorials on how to do this, and multiple hours of searching would only accomplish some ok tutorials on some of this stuff. Although I'm sure that there are tutorials from which you will be able to implement this, although where I don't know. Search for it, and if you find some add me, I would greatly like to know how to do this. Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd choose to erase the file alloc tables and "make all the files and folders look gone" and cause panic for at least a while
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