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DeltaFlyer
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| blankrider wrote: | Delta you keep bringing up technicalities
your argument is flawed
ActiveX can be run in programs btw >.>
i have a laptop to fix though  |
It's not a technicality, it's a fundamental flaw in your argument.
You have not defined what you call a "botting language".
So far, there are two possible definitions I can see for a "botting language":
a) a language specifically designed to create bots. By this definition, my earlier argument stands.
b) a language that can create bots. This definition contradicts your very first sentence in this thread: "Java is NOT a botting language... "
Either way, your argument is flawed.
And yes, I have already stated ActiveX controls can be included in many of the languages associated with MS.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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delta go make me a bot in java that can bypass GG rev 1021
easy way to do it in c++, but what about java, because i know that way is impossible in java
have fun with java, ill have fun in C+
goodday
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| blankrider wrote: | delta go make me a bot in java that can bypass GG rev 1021
easy way to do it in c++, but what about java, because i know that way is impossible in java
have fun with java, ill have fun in C+
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Bots are not created to bypass GG. Regarding rev 1021, I am assuming this the the rev for MS, the OP have already stated that he does not wish to create a bot for MS.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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The OP?
and you never made that bot, because you can't...
i know that java can make a bot, but it would be basic and not able to bypass security
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| blankrider wrote: | | i know that java can make a bot |
| blankrider wrote: | | Java is NOT a botting language... |
So where do you stand?
And as I have stated earlier in a post:
| DeltaFlyer wrote: | | Java can make quite good bots actually. It bypassed a game's built-in protection (non-GG) where keybd_event and post/sendmessage APIs were blocked. Bad point is that Java cannot capture hotkeys so JNI must be needed for that functionality. |
OP = Original Poster = The person who started this thread, in this case, Krayzee.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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it can make a bot, but they're not economic
they cant hotkey
they are slower because it has to be run by 2 processors instead of 1
i stand at that while there are "robot classes" for java, they suck
c++ is the way to go for a bot
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| blankrider wrote: | | they are slower because it has to be run by 2 processors instead of 1 |
I don't use these words often, but wtf?
| blankrider wrote: | i stand at that while there are "robot classes" for java, they suck
c++ is the way to go for a bot |
I'm not here to argue whether Java is a good language to choose for botting, but whether Java can create a bot as you have said:
| blankrider wrote: | | Java is NOT a botting language... |
Also, the Robot class for Java does not "suck". They still take advantage of Java's portability.
Ever tried to move the mouse with a bot on Linux?
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:31 am Post subject: |
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you have to run the bot by the jvm and windows
as compared to no jvm
slows it down
portability DOES NOT MAKE SOMETHING GOOD...
you can have something shitty, thats portable, does that make it good?
no
and say you did make a sexy bot that bypasses gg, all they would have to do is block the JVM.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:41 am Post subject: |
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| blankrider wrote: | you have to run the bot by the jvm and windows
as compared to no jvm
slows it down
portability DOES NOT MAKE SOMETHING GOOD...
you can have something shitty, thats portable, does that make it good?
no
and say you did make a sexy bot that bypasses gg, all they would have to do is block the JVM. |
-Running something on top of a VM does not involve two processors.
-How do you define good? "shitty"? "suck"? Portability is an advantage, as it saves time in development for multiple platforms. So it is good for the programmers.
-That last sentence is the equivalent of saying "and say you did make a sexy bot that bypasses gg, all they would have to do is block the bot."
You lack the basic vocabulary, knowledge, as well as intellect to form a coherent argument. Arguing with you is like arguing with an eight-year old. I will no longer respond to your posts in this thread.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:46 am Post subject: |
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all they have to do is block the jvm from running while gg is, whats so hard about that?
portability is an advantage, but doesn't make something better than something that isn't portable, i would assume you would know that i guess not though
all your arguments have been is technicalities, every single post is technicalities. We have been arguing what makes C++ better than java, but what makes Java better than c++ (other than portability, because that doesn't make something "Better" than something)
Argue about that, and maybe you would see some things...
you're WHOLE argument is based almost entirely of the portability case, what other cases do you have? Java is shit on a web page...so don't argue that
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lol 1 wrong 0 or 1 and you just got anal raped xP
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| DeltaFlyer wrote: | | blankrider wrote: | | they are slower because it has to be run by 2 processors instead of 1 |
I don't use these words often, but wtf?
| blankrider wrote: | i stand at that while there are "robot classes" for java, they suck
c++ is the way to go for a bot |
I'm not here to argue whether Java is a good language to choose for botting, but whether Java can create a bot as you have said:
| blankrider wrote: | | Java is NOT a botting language... |
Also, the Robot class for Java does not "suck". They still take advantage of Java's portability.
Ever tried to move the mouse with a bot on Linux? |
Have you tried to play MS or any game for that matter that uses GG, on linux?
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| Chaos_Blader wrote: | | Have you tried to play MS or any game for that matter that uses GG, on linux? |
A bot is not designed just to send input to programs protected by GG. It has many other uses as well.
My purpose of my last comment regarding moving the mouse on Linux is supposed to bring up the difficulty of programmatically controlling the input devices in Linux.
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| Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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lmao you guys are still at it? it's been 4 pages already!
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