Cheat Engine

[Mychilli]

Well, eventually, everyone will move to vista, and its just progress..

[Aniblaze]

[Dark Byte]

[Never Again]

How'd this thread get so popular so fast O.o

[Mychilli]

casue DB posted it

People sayed 2000 was better than xp, so people bitched about xp for a while

as computer standards increase, comps willl get cheaper, and vista will be prodomonate OS, its just progress

[joseso]

[Aniblaze]

[Mychilli]

GUI and Security, and more stable (?)

btw, i dont have vista

it took about 3 years for everyone to go from 2000 to xp

go look up Windows OS history


wait till sp1, itll b better

[Aniblaze]

[Dark Byte]

gui, perhaps, but I myself don't really like those transparent titlenames or the windows button always covering some pixels of my app

security, perhaps, but I disabled UAC on the first day, and trying my best to disable the other security features as well

stable, perhaps after the patch, but every now and then when doing something ghraphical, the screen goes black for a few seconds, and then every 2 minutes or so I get a hang for 10 seconds followed by a message that the display isn't responding anymore while the display looks fine...

edit: moved from random spam to general programming since this has at least a little to do with programming (drivers)

[Aniblaze]

Hmm, anyway. Do you perhaps have a thread somewhere else on the forums that goes more into detail then it does here? The spam section isn't all that for this matter.

Anyway, I am heading for bed. The only reason I stayed up this late was because I suddenly saw this thread coming about. If you do have another topic on this matter, please pass me the link.

G'night,
Ani

[Dark Byte]

Not really a better thread, or more detail. (in case you never figured out, I suck at explaining details, you'll have to pull them out of me)

Anyhow, dbvm is a virtual machine(and tiny os) I wrote that boots as soon as possible (from floppy disk, cd, and in the future usb thumbdrive) which will run vista(and other os'es as well like linux) in a virtual machine and adds a few new instructions to the cpu that apps can use. E.g Change selectors, hide memory, redirect interrupts to different interrupts or completly skip the idt, disable interrupts including non maskable ones, etc...

This method mainly makes use of the change selector option and interrupt disabling for short times. (after switching from usermode to kernelmode to block taskswitches that'll blue screen you)

When it is already in kernelmode (in a unsafe way) it allocates some nonpaged memory. Reads the driverfile's pe header and builds it up in that memory.
It then creates a systemthread at the driver's driver entry, go back to usermode and that's it. The driver is now running and executing in a decently-safe kernel environment. Except that the driverentry params arn't valid.


also, there is a irc channel on the same server the cef channel is called #dbvm, I can be found there sometimes for semi-realtime chats about this.

[lurc]

its true, every1 will have vista soon, and no one can deny it, i mean, how many people do u see having 2000 running anymore? thats gonna be just like Vista.

im probs gonna get it to, once a service pack comes up and fixes all the shitty bugs it has.

[DeletedUser14087]

DB uses a Dual Boot for 2 OS.

Vista

Linux

[Noz3001]

How come when I hook something on vista, it just gets unhooked straight away?